Charged Fireballs

[TheomanZero]

It's possible this was discussed before and I missed it, but . . . Why don't Mario and Luigi have charged fireballs any more in v0.5?

[Warcheeso]

my guess is they just interfered with aspects of the game, (such as when you want to pick up an enemy) , and it probably makes more sense for other power ups (such as the megaman suit) to have the charged shot rather than the fire flowers also having it.

[Del]

They were removed because the Fire Flower is supposed to be the lowest tier power up in the game and with the charged fireballs you could take out a lot of enemies and get higher DPS than you should.

[TwinTails]

So power ups have "tiers" now? I would have actually found the charged fireballs useful considering the overall difficulty of some levels and bosses in the game (and more levels to come). could you at least tell us what power ups are strongest?

[TheomanZero]

They were removed because the Fire Flower is supposed to be the lowest tier power up in the game and with the charged fireballs you could take out a lot of enemies and get higher DPS than you should.

Well, I thought the charged fireballs were pretty cool, but if you had a reason, then okay.  I just wanted to know what it was.

So power ups have "tiers" now? I would have actually found the charged fireballs useful considering the overall difficulty of some levels and bosses in the game (and more levels to come). could you at least tell us what power ups are strongest?

I think the Hammer Suit is generally the best in terms of raw power, but the Mega Man Suit and Sci-Fi Suit sometimes have better DPS.  Though for Wario and Roll, you should reverse the Hammer and Sci-Fi Suits.

[Lars Luron]

They were removed because the Fire Flower is supposed to be the lowest tier power up in the game and with the charged fireballs you could take out a lot of enemies and get higher DPS than you should.

Actually that's not quite correct. According to Obreck, the charged fireballs were originally implemented because the Bros needed a little extra something to help put them on par with the other characters. Then we decided to go and give them extra suits to help bridge the gap, and with those added, the charged fireballs became sort of redundant.
I do agree with Del, though- the way those were set up it was real easy to pump out a near-constant stream of those things and just tear through everything in your path.

[Del]

They were removed because the Fire Flower is supposed to be the lowest tier power up in the game and with the charged fireballs you could take out a lot of enemies and get higher DPS than you should.

Actually that's not quite correct. According to Obreck, the charged fireballs were originally implemented because the Bros needed a little extra something to help put them on par with the other characters. Then we decided to go and give them extra suits to help bridge the gap, and with those added, the charged fireballs became sort of redundant.

That was another of the reasons they were removed, but not the only one, if it had been decided like that, they would've been cut before 0.41 when we added the Duke/Marco and Guile suits; I remember we had a discussion after 0.41 was out about keeping or removing the fireballs and all of the arguments mentioned in this topic were considered, in the end they were cut.

Eh, same thing, they're gone and won't come back, the bros. don't need them, they were OP.

[TwinTails]

Just another question, you don't think anymore suits or power ups need to be nerfed, do you?

[Triggerpigking]

You could charge fireballs? I never actually noticed that.

[Hopalongtom]

Speaking of cut features, I always found it fun when Megamario's charge shot caused him to recoil... even midjump giving skilled players a bit of a boost over large jumps! 

Of course that also lead to the problem where you had to not shoot where you didn't want to... since run and shoot was the same button...